Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 16:32:27 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #186 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 21 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 186 Today's Topics: c Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 19 February FCC Digest Help-Best Antenna Feed Methods (2 msgs) IRC questions ... Isla de Omotepe, Nicaragua, DXpedition 25-27 Feb New 2m radio New QRZ! Ham Radio Callbook CDROM: $15.95 Ramsey debate RFD: rec.radio.pendantic Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Feb 94 17:16:50 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!glasgow!unix.brighton.ac.uk!ic5@network.ucsd.edu Subject: c To: info-hams@ucsd.edu -- *************************************************************************** * * * There`s only one way of life.... Ian Connelly, * * And that`s your own............. BSc (Hons) Computer Science Yr2. * * University of Brighton. * * ic5@uk.ac.brighton.unix * * * * Forget the disclaimer, I`m always wrong. * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 17:37:28 MST From: nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@beaver.cs.washington.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 19 February To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT 19 FEBRUARY, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 050, 02/19/94 10.7 FLUX=108.0 90-AVG=106 SSN=054 BKI=3343 3333 BAI=016 BGND-XRAY=B2.1 FLU1=4.2E+06 FLU10=1.6E+04 PKI=3344 3343 PAI=017 BOU-DEV=028,021,040,029,023,027,038,021 DEV-AVG=028 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= B7.3 @ 0303UT XRAY-MIN= B1.8 @ 1844UT XRAY-AVG= B2.5 NEUTN-MAX= +003% @ 0945UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2020UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.4% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1945UT PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 0330UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55351NT @ 0749UT BOUTF-MIN=55305NT @ 1827UT BOUTF-AVG=55333NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+062,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+123NT@ 1918UT GOES6-MIN=N:-085NT@ 0722UT G6-AVG=+088,+039,-027 FLUXFCST=STD:110,110,115;SESC:110,110,115 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,015/012,010,015 KFCST=2234 4321 1234 5321 27DAY-AP=005,003 27DAY-KP=2212 2122 2112 0111 WARNINGS= ALERTS= !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 18 FEB 94 was 42.0. The Full Kp Indices for 18 FEB 94 are: 2- 2o 2- 3- 2- 2o 1+ 3- The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 18 FEB 94 are: 7 8 7 14 6 8 5 12 Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 19 FEB is: 1.0E+08 SYNOPSIS OF ACT -------------------- Solar activity was very low. Little eruptive activity of any type occurred. One new Region, 7674 (S14E24) emerged to join the three other spotted regions visible. Region 7671 (N12W00) remains the dominant spot group. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be low. The geomagnetic field has been at unsettled to mildly active levels the past 24 hours. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be mostly unsettled throughout the interval. Event probabilities 20 feb-22 feb Class M 05/05/05 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 20 feb-22 feb A. Middle Latitudes Active 25/25/25 Minor Storm 15/15/15 Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05 B. High Latitudes Active 25/25/25 Minor Storm 15/15/25 Major-Severe Storm 05/05/05 HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions, except the auroral latitudes where sporadic fading was observed. No changes are expected over the next 72 hours. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WIT ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7670 N09W11 199 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA 7671 N11W00 188 0340 CKO 07 010 BET 7673 N08W78 266 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA 7674 S14E24 164 0000 BXO 03 002 BET 7669 N08W21 209 PLAGE 7672 N03W11 199 PLAGE REGIONS DUE TO RET NMBR LAT 7663 N13 089 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 19 FEBRUARY, 1994 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NONE POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 19 FEBRUARY, 1994 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO EVENTS OBSERVED INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 19/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NONE VISIBLE SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 18 Feb: 0538 0542 0546 C1.1 SF 7671 N07E24 0912 0956 1017 C1.1 1314 1319 1322 B5.6 SF 7671 N08E21 2035 2039 2044 B4.3 2148 2152 2154 B4.2 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7671: 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 002 (40.0) Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 003 (60.0) Total Events: 005 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WIT ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:36:55 GMT From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa Subject: FCC Digest To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article arog@BIX.com (arog on BIX) writes: > >I'll 'third' it. > >I much appreciate the posting of info on the Commission's >actions to the net. I'll grant that some of it is not >ham.radio specific, but the overview is much needed by >folks here. > I have no opinion one way or the other, but maybe to satisfy both parties it could be posted on just rec.radio.info - that seems like a VERY appropriate forum. Jeff NH6IL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 18:32:55 -0500 From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@yale.arpa Subject: Help-Best Antenna Feed Methods To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Please give me some ideas on the best ways to feed antennas through walls, windows without trashing siding, walls etc. Does anyone make an energy efficient device that you can put in a window that could feed all types of antenna lines. Does anyone have plans for such? Thank John Quist KA2URB ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 94 14:55:52 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help-Best Antenna Feed Methods To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article John Quist writes: >Please give me some ideas on the best ways to feed antennas through walls, >windows without trashing siding, walls etc. Does anyone make an energy >efficient >device that you can put in a window that could feed all types of antenna >lines. Does anyone have plans for such? As is the case with automobile antenna installations, the best advice is to *get out the drill*, however, you can use a block of wood as a feedthru in a window if your lease won't let you drill the wall. Drill the wood, put it in the window, and close the window against it. If you don't mind replacing the glass when you move, you can also just *drill the glass* for your antenna feedthrus. (Note there are tricks to successfully drilling glass. If you don't know them, consult someone who does.) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:08:16 GMT From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: IRC questions ... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article , tavernin@sun1.interlan.com (Victor Tavernini) wrote: > How many Internation Reply Coupons are need for return postage of a > QSL card ... does the number of IRCs differ from country to country? > or is one IRC all that is necessary to send? One IRC is first class (surface) postage from any IPU country to the US. Note that not all countries belong to the IPU (International Postal Union). For most countries you really want air mail, and that is where things get difficult. The Air Mail rate ranges from 2 to 10 IRCs depoending on the country (of course the ones where surface mail is awfull want 10 IRCs :-) This changes from time to time, so you need to check the K6JO (?) QSL managewr list or a recent callbook for the latest info. BTW *never* buy IRCs fromthe post office, send a check for $10 to a QSL manager and ask to buy some IRCs - he gets more than the post office will give him and they cost you less! When I last did that they were around 30 cents apiece that way. Good DX! Mike AA4MW ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 12:51:46 GMT From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nigel.msen.com!caen!nic.umass.edu!usenet@ames.arpa Subject: Isla de Omotepe, Nicaragua, DXpedition 25-27 Feb To: info-hams@ucsd.edu OMETEPE (NICARAGUA) 94 DX EXPEDITION February 25,26,27, 1994 The island of Ometepe is located in Lake Nicaragua, the third largest lake in Latin America. It is said to be the largest island in the world within a lake. The island is dominated by two volcanos, 1610 meter Concepcion, and 1394 meter Madera, and has a population of 35,000 people living within its 266 square km. area. The following is excerpted and translated from a message from YN1TV to N1AW (YN1ASW): On the island of Ometepe there are no radio amateurs, which is a big problem for those OMs who want a QSO with all the islands of the world. This is the reason we are going to invade Ometepe and attempt to put it on the air on HF using packet, RTTY, CW, and SSB. The expedition will camp at the place known as San Marcos, 8 km from Moyogalpa, on the shore of the Great Lake of Nicaragua. It is an ideal location for experiments with antennas. The expedition will be on the air from 0000 UTC Friday February 25, 1994 until 1100 UTC Sunday February 27. The call for this DXpedition will be H70O Hotel Seven Zero Oscar, which has been officially solicited for the Club de Radio Experimentadores de Nicaragua (CREN). QSL INFORMATION: H70O Postbox 4636 Managua, Nicaragua 2 Greenstamps for QSL 4 Greenstamps for Diploma Organizadores del evento DX Expedition Ometepe 94: Humberto Diaz S. YN7DS Reneiro Montiel Jr. YN1RS Manuel Navarro YN1ABL Juan de la Cruz Rodriguez YN1JRP Jose Antonio Roman YN5JAR Theo Vlaar YN1TV Inge Vlaar XYL YN1TV Douglas Arias Conzales YN5ZDC Para mas informacion: CREN, Postbox 925, Managua, Nicaragua Tel: 505-2-71274/74937 Humberto Diaz S. YN1DS Postbox 159, Masaya, Nicaragua Tel. : 505-52-4861 FAX. : 505-52-3826 Theo Vlaar YN1TV Villa Fontana Norte #67, Managua, Nicaragua Tel: 505-2-73512 E-Mail: theo@nicarao.apc.org theo@theo.radio.ni ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 94 15:24:24 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu Subject: New 2m radio To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article dward@.infi.net (Dale Ward) writes: >OK. I need some advice. I'm returning to the air after a long absence and >would like recommendations on what type of 2m vhf-fm radio to purchase. I >desire portability, so that probably means an HT. In addition to brand >names, what features should I get -- at a minimum, as well as "nice to have" >for future operation. I travel by vehicle around the SE US, so will need to >be able to access many different repeaters. So, what do you say? If you travel in your own, or your company's, car, you'll be much happier, as will all those who have to listen to your signals, if you install a mobile rig and proper antenna rather than trying to make do with a HT. If you use rentals, you may be stuck with a HT, or a "bagphone" equivalent consisting of a small mobile rig such as the Icom IC229A, gell cell, cigarette plug adaptor, and a magmount antenna. You won't have satisfactory results with just the rubber dummy load that comes on HTs except in rare locations, and their low power, susceptability to intermod when used with an outside antenna, and low audio output will make you miserable in the car. With the proliferation of 440 MHz activity in much of the country, you may also want to consider a dualband radio. I consider Alinco the value leader for function per dollar, but Yaesu and Icom also make good radios. I don't particularly like Kenwood VHF radios due to a history of problems, but others seem to think they're acceptable. If you're set on a 2 meter only HT, then the Radio Shack HTX202 is an excellent value with good intermod rejection. Most of the others on the market today try to pretend that they're GP scanners as well as two way radios, and thus suffer the problems inherent in wide receiver front ends. My choice in my vehicle is the Alinco 590, and my HT is the Yaesu FT470. Both perform acceptably for the uses to which I put them. I wouldn't consider using the HT in the car, however, since it's wide front end causes it to suffer extreme intermod when used on an external antenna. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 00:07:13 GMT From: olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!odin!chuck.dallas.sgi.com!adams@ames.arpa Subject: New QRZ! Ham Radio Callbook CDROM: $15.95 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I got the QRZ CDROM a month ago on the internet "special" offered by Fred. This was the best use of money for ham radio for under $20. This CDROM should give Buckmaster and the others a run for their money, since they are at the $50 level. I use the UNIX (tm) version of the callbook. During one run of 25 calls that I looked up for QSLs to stations worked during a QRP contest, it took less than 3 seconds on a workstation. I did this by creating a script with the lines call k5fjz k5jkb ... (for five calls) call xxxxxx xxxx xxx with five calls per line, since the program halts every five for as it assumes it's in an interactive mode from a terminal. I plan on submitting the data base for ALL 180,000+ US cities and a C program to do great-circle bearing calculations for the next verions of the QRZ CDROM. The data base alone if more than 5MB!!! Anyway, my $0.02 worth of publicity. I'm NOT paid for this endorsement, just another happy satisfied customer. There are a lot of other programs and data bases on the ROM, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. dit dit -- Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 94 17:34:18 GMT From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Ramsey debate To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Haven't felt it was appropriate to get back in the middle of the debate, but I was very offended at the comments made directly at me. People on the network and across the country know me.. I have never had anyone call me a liar, and to my knowledge haven't had any problems with anyone I have personally dealt with (giving and receiving information, and buying and selling equipments). I have people calling many nights during the week to ask for help and ask general questions.. haven't had a problem with any of them. I am always most willing to "look in the mirror". Been happy with what I see. What I related on the net was a documented experience I had with John Ramsey, no more, no less. It was based on facts not fiction and had nothing to do with his personal being outside the realm of my experience with him. When I called him a "liar" I think I specifically related the lie he told me.. this seemed reasonable. I was also very offended that he was saying things to customers on the phone that were negative about me (also documented). In contrast, I don't know of an instance where I have lied to ANYONE... it is not something I think is a good attribute and never do it knowingly. I think I was not negative about the building of the Ramsey kit and remember specifically saying I thought the building of it was in fact fun up till the final alignment (so please be accurate when you attempt to call someone a liar with absolutely no information). I know I am not in the least guilty of any immoral or unprofessional behavior...and think it may be time to let this drop.. I was just trying to relate an experience to help people avoid problems I personally encountered. I have heard MANY other people relate problems with this company or I would have not said anything to start with. 73.. this is suppose to be a supportive, fun hobby .. isn't it. Jeff, AC4HF (and proud of it) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 17:45:50 GMT From: netcomsv!netcomsv!skyld!jangus@decwrl.dec.com Subject: RFD: rec.radio.pendantic To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu spews: [ nothing of importance as usual ] > > Jeff NH6IL > For Christs sake Jeff. Give it a fucking rest. I voted for Bush both times, how about accusing me of murder since I had a hand in electing the Commander in Chief that ordered Desert Storm? By the way, lists of frequencies used by various agencies are published in books and magazines in most electronics type stores. How about telling me that Radio Shack promotes jamming the police. Heh? Tom Kneitel (spelling?) pushes his frequency compendium by splattering the word SECRET in 3" high caps across the cover. How about it? Is he promoting jamming various services? Perhaps instead he could be accused of aiding and abetting drug dealers by publishing the DEA comm channels. Since you seem to have to have the last word, and constantly stir up shit over non-issues how about we create a new newsgroup for you. rec.radio.pendantic Simple and efficient. You can cover amateur, CB and commercial without cross-posting. You might even get a few of the others with a flair to the verbose to join you over there. Bottomline disclaimer for the humor impaired. Yup, I used the F-word. If you're too lazy to scan the news before forwarding it onto the RF via packet, it's your problem, not mine. Re-read your copy of part 97. Side Note: How many remember Uncle Toms Cabin in Popular Electronics? Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "You have a flair for adding Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | a fanciful dimension to any US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | story." Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | Peking Noodle Co. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:33:48 GMT From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Feb3.190229.8136@arrl.org>, , <2jqtltINNkan@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Subject : Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER In article <2jqtltINNkan@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes: > .......... >By the way, be sure to read alt.radio.pirate; ..... _NOW_ I understand your stance, Dana; now I understand why you continue to come to the defense of suspected illegals. Hmmm, I wonder if there might be a bit of piracy in your past. That might explain your defending those I chastise for promoting illegal operations. Maybe you're feeling a little guilty? And don't say ``Get over it Jeff'' because now I will always suspect your past. Jeff NH6IL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:46:57 GMT From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2k3apaINNmjf@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, , <2k8eh3INNnac@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Subject : Re: Help me (was Re: Spectral purity of 2m tx (was Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER In article <2k8eh3INNnac@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes: >In article jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeff Herman) writes: >>In article <2k3apaINNmjf@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes: >>> >>>Anyway, comparing 1kW on 11m to the amateur rules is pointless. >>>Amateurs have historically been very proud of a strict compliance >>>to the rules, and frequently ridicule 11m folks for not complying >>>with the appropriate rules. I should hope you aren't condoning the >>>operation of radios with illegal harmonic outputs on sensitive aero bands. >> >>Why not? You'll defend a pirate who posts 6MHz air-to-ground >>frequencies on rec.radio.cb in answer to a query posted by an other >>pirate as to what frequencies other illegals were using outside of >>11M. Don't sound so high and mighty on here Dana while at the same time >>defend illegals posting (inviting?) pirate operation on air-to-ground >>channels. > >This really isn't worth a response, much less one to the Usenet, but >I'll make one attempt. Jeff Herman has engaged in pattern of attempting >inflame newsgroups, by posting such inflammatory notes. This is my >only response, since my experience with people exhibiting the conduct >I see in Jeff is that they'll go away if you ignore them. Nice try Dana, but you're the one who seems to follow me from one news- group to another commenting on MY posts. You're the one who wants to play the role of Public Defender. Inflame newsgroups? Nope. But I'm not going to hide my head when I suspect someone has broken the law. Recall I was a radio officer in the U.S. Coast Guard. I am VERY sensitive when I suspect foul play in the air. For years at Group Monterey Station we had to put up with jamming on 2182 kHz (world-wide MF voice distress frequency) and occasionally even on VHF ch16. I didn't put up with it then and I won't put up with it now, whether it occures on or off the ham bands. If you see me chastising someone for suspected illegal operation, feel free to hit the `n' key. But If you're going to attack me, expect to receive a few comments yourself. It seems ``you can dish it out but you can't take it''. > >For what it is worth, on rec.radio.cb, I *did* post note suggesting >that Jeff's threat to report an SWL to the ITU was frivolous. In fact, >I attempted to point out that there was no evidence that this alleged >"pirate" Jeff talks about was anything but an SWL. who was posting the 6MHz air-to-ground frequencies as a place for pirates to transmit on. >>Oh, and let's not forget your coming to Shoup's defense (December) after >>I chastised him for stating he was going to put a 5kw xmtr on the ham >>bands. > >Mike Shoupe did state he had a couple of 5KW AM transmitters he intended >to place on the ham bands, when his license permitted. From the context, >it was suggested that Shoupe intends to abide by the regulations of his >license class. Next thing we know, Jeff Herman is posting a series of Sorry but ``from the context'' it was never suggested that Shoupe intends to abide by any regulation. Recall he took delight in bragging about his illegal past activities. >notes condemning Shoupe as an "outlaw" and "scofflaw". It is certainly Yep. He's the one who bragged about his outlaw activites. >the case that a high-powered transmitter may be operated at reduced power, >often with improved performance. It is also the case that Mr. Shoupe may >not yet be aware the AM power limits are less than the oft talked about >1.5KW output limit. > >>Make up your mind as to which side of the law you stand on. > >I stand on the side of compliance and respect for the rights of >individuals. For some reason, Herman feels compelled to carry on >a campaign against any Usenet poster who even suggests something that >is contrary to law, and Jeff feels compelled to carry on a campaign >especially against me, on several occaisions quoting me out of context No Myers, you're the one with a vendetta. ``Get over it.'' >and making completely false assertions with regards to me. Not true. ``... completely false assertions...'' is completely false. > >For the record, I oppose any kind of illegal radio operation. > >For the record, I oppose the violation of legal and ethical rights >of people. Good. Then disregard this need you have of coming to the rescue of those who I suspect and chastise for illegal operations. Let them defend themselves. Twice on rec.radio.cb you've felt the need to defend someone (the linear amp thread and the 6MHz air-to-ground frequencies post) that I took exception to. Leave me alone and I'll do the same. > >If Mr. Herman wishes to condemn me for this stance, fine. However, >I do not believe this kind of personal vendetta is appropriate for Hmmm, when I mentioned the personal vendetta you had against me back in December, you're response was, I believe, `get over it'. Again, if you want a truce then let the suspected illegals defend themselves. >a newsgroup. If you have further questions or comments on the >issue, please feel free to write to me at: > >Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com > >If you have any questions or comments for Jeff Herman, his e-mail >address is: > >jherman@Hawaii.Edu > >Thank you, >Dana 73 Dana, Jeff NH6IL ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #186 ****************************** ******************************